Episode 2

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10th Sep 2025

Bad Elizabeth - Lizzie Borden with Ricardo Rebelo

Lizzie Borden’s father and stepmother were found hacked to death in Fall River, Massachusetts over one hundred and thirty years ago, yet everyone today still knows her name. Kids dress up like Lizzie carrying bloody axes for Halloween, or spookily recite the famous nursery rhyme “Lizzie Borden took an axe and gave her mother forty whacks/When she saw what she had done, she gave her father forty-one." But what is the real story behind this gory tale?

Gideon and Kathy break down what happened the morning of August 4th, 1892, examining Lizzie as the number one presumed suspect, but also look into the possibility that someone else might’ve murdered Abby and Andrew Borden. What are the possible motives? Was Lizzie pissed because modern plumbing was available at the time, but her tight-pursed father made the family crap in chamber pots? Or was it for the money? And what exactly qualifies one as a “spinster?” But most importantly, was Lizzie Borden BAD? Gideon and Kathy pull from their many resources, including the salacious, and kinda weird, 1975 made-for-TV movie, “The Legend of Lizzie Borden,” starring beloved “Bewitched” actress, Elizabeth Montgomery, to explore the most critical questions behind one of America’s most enduring crime mysteries. 

Later in the episode, Kathy talks to Ricardo Rebelo, an instructor of Film, Video & Communications at Bristol Community College in Rhode Island, from his home in Fall River, Massachusetts. Ric discusses his PBS documentary, “Lizbeth: A Victorian Nightmare,” growing up on the same street from the infamous Borden house, the ecosystem of ghosts that haunt the town of Fall River, and the tourism industry it lures. Tuck in for some good tales as spooky Pumpkin Spice season has officially begun!

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Hosted by Gideon Evans & Kathy Egan Taylor

Produced & Engineer by Will Becton / Executive Producer: Amber Becton

Recorded @ Jett Road Studios

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SOURCES:

The New Yorker: Legends of Lizzie

Smithsonian Magazine: How Lizzie Borden Got Away with Murder 

New York Times: Lizzie Borden Took an Ax

The Legend of Lizzie Borden (starring Elizabeth Montgomery)

Lizbeth: A Victorian Nightmare : A Lizzie Borden True Crime / Paranormal Documentary

One August Morning: The True Story of Lizzie Borden - Troy Taylor

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About the Podcast

Bad Elizabeth
Bad Elizabeths throughout history
Jett Road Studios presents "Bad Elizabeth" a comedic true crime podcast hosted by friends and former “The Daily Show with Jon Stewart” office mates, Gideon Evans and Kathy Egan-Taylor. The premise is as simple as it sounds - each episode explores the story of an “Elizabeth” (or any derivation of that name) who is notorious; be they a murderer, a fraudster, or just a complete a-hole. These women span both past and present, in pop culture, and world history. Gideon & Kathy guide you through these sordid and outrageous tales breezily, as if you were a guest at a fun cocktail party.

Season 1 Elizabeths profiled include famed axe-wielder Lizzie Borden, imprisoned Theranos CEO Elizabeth Holmes, the ruthless Queen Elizabeth I, and the bloodthirsty Hungarian Countess, Elizabeth Bathory. Gideon and Kathy explore the misdeeds of the Elizabeths in question, and determine whether they deserve to be called "bad". Each episode also features a special guest, be it an expert, actor, author, or an actual living and breathing Elizabeth (a good one).

Evans and Egan-Taylor don’t harbor any resentment against Elizabeths - many of whom they hope to woo as listeners - however, there are a lot of them out there who are objectively shitty (we all know at least one). Consider yourself warned!

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